November 19, 2007
Atheism’s Religiosity and the Apostate
Today, I will put aside the religious belief system of environmentalism and its apocalyptic Global Warming/Climate Change dance and deal with the religion of atheism.
Already I hear, “It’s not a religion!â€
Okay, what defines what a religion is? But before I go any further, let’s strip away the trapping, the vestments, the buildings, the apologetics, and the numerous texts and so on.
I ‘googled’ religion and took the first definition:
Definitions of religion on the Web:
We have two parts here joined by an ‘or,’ and it’s the ‘or’ which makes this interesting. Why? Well, let’s take the first segment:
a strong belief in a supernatural power
The first segment deals with supernatural power which anyone can define as God, Providence (George Washington’s favorite name) and a plethora of other names.
But the second segment, the part after the ‘or’ is:
powers that control human destiny;
Control human destiny? Hum . . .
Atheists don’t believe in God, but Atheism has been ‘married’ to Darwin, natural selection, genetics and ultimately, evolution. Look at all the texts which have come out in support of atheism, and evolution is mentioned in these books as supporting evidence.
Evolution controls the destiny of the human species, and evolution is the power (look back at the definition), the truth and the light of atheism. By definition, atheism is a religion.
What brought this posting about is an article by Dinesh D'Souza, “The atheists who came in from the cold.†Not only does atheism have leaders Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and Christopher Hitchens, and followers, there are apostates, too. Philosopher Anthony Flew, “has been, for the past half-century, the world's leading advocate of atheism. His works such as Theology and Falsification and The Presumption of Atheism were considered classics of theist thought. No one has so relentlessly espoused the atheist cause, and no one has been more anthologized and eulogized by the atheist community.â€
But, he’s joined the other side: “Now, in his early eighties, Flew has rejected atheism and said he believes that God exists. He does not espouse the Christian God, but calls himself a Deist.â€
The assault on Anthony Flew has begun. The New York Times “selected Mark Oppenheimer of Yale, who visited Flew in England and wrote a long article in the November 4, 2007 New York Times Magazine suggesting that Flew converted because he is, well, senile.â€
He is . . . senile. Question of the week is: What are the atheists going to do when the apostates are younger? Burn them at the stake?
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Hi, William! Welcome to mee.nu!
I think you'll find that you are mis-parsing that definition you are using. It's not saying "a strong belief in (a supernatural power) or (powers that control human destiny)"; rather, it's "a strong belief in a supernatural (power or powers) that control human destiny."
In other words, religion requires the supernatural. Not only does it require the supernatural, it requires the supernatural to exert power over our human destiny.
Since atheism does not require the supernatural, atheism is in no sense a religion.
Posted by: djmccart at November 25, 2007 02:57 AM (5Ap1G)
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“Supernatural†is a great word representing some much of ‘Ghosties And Ghoulies And Long-Legged Beasties’ and things that go bump in the night, all the fairy tale stuff.
As
of, pertaining to, or being above or beyond what is natural; unexplainable by natural law or phenomena; abnormal.
www.upisociety.com/vocabulary.html
characteristics of the reality beyond the senses.
oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth370/gloss.html
But when what was considered ‘beyond what is natural’ and ‘characteristics of the reality beyond the senses’ is being continually explored by parapsychology as an honest academia and scholarly effort in the area of soft-science, I’ll stick with my post.
Now, in regard to destiny, I say being that destiny ‘lies not in our stars but in ourselves’ or rather the gene pool. Instead of gods, Fates, and the Muses there are genes which make the human. And in a universe of evolution, chance and natural selection there is no freewill. Einstein believed in Determinism. Without freewill there is destiny in a very pure sense.
Thanks for dropping by.
Posted by: William Zeranski at November 26, 2007 09:09 AM (EvR7k)
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Great post, William, and great response to Djmccart!
A point on DJ`s argument; the idea that atheism is not religious is easily disproven by reason; both contemplate the ultimate realities. The atheist claims that the only things which should be considered are perceptual, and that anything beyond that is somehow ``supernatural`` and thus does not exist. O.K. that must mean that black holes do not exist since we did not know of them until the 20th century. That means that Quasars, Photons, Leptons, Gluons, Muons, Positrons, Quarks, etc.do not exist as long as Man was unaware of them. Ditto the Big Bang. The counter argument is that these are natural phonomenon existing inside of our percepual universe. True, but what makes things outside of our universe any less real? They aren`t because we are unaware of them?
The atheist has made a huge leap of faith; there is nothing outside of the material universe. This leap of faith (and faith, not the supernatural, is the defining element in a religion) requires an enormous assumption-that what cannot be seen does not exist. Of course, science makes these types of assumptions all of the time based on sometimes flimsy evidence; mini-black holes (as opposed to full sized ones) are assumed as real, although nobody has ever proven their existence. Gravitons, too, have never been actually proven, although most physicists believe they exist.
Every race, every nation, tribe, kindred, and tongue has believed in a Creator; there have been no purely atheistic nations in human history. Why? If the atheists are right you would expect at least some predominantly atheistic civilizations. In fact the old argument that this was some tale told to explain the unexplainable is poppycock; the simple answer to the unknown is that it is unknown. Most people do not make up fanciful tales when they come across something they don`t understand-they simply admit their ignorance. They might try to think up an explanation, but will not internalize it and believe. Yet this isn`t the historical record. Why? It appears that people have a built in understanding that there is a God (or gods).
Also, there have been witnesses and Divine inspiration. The atheist dismisses these as delusions, but cannot that judgement be applied equally to aspects of science? Certainly Darwin`s theory of Natural Selection has never been proven, yet the Darwinists accept it with absolute faith based on flimsier evidence than Jews and Christians have. People DIED in large numbers and quite painfully for their faith; especially Christians, many of whom knew Jesus personally, many more of whom were well educated and had opposed the new religion. The Roman governor who issued the order to put Jesus to death (Pontius Pilate) would witness his own wife (Procula) become a Christian (she`s cannonized a Saint in both Catholic and Orthodox Churches). Can Darwin`s people make such a claim? The fossil record does not even support their claims (there are no firm transitional fossils between the different species, and many that the Darwinists have claimed have turned out to be false) yet the FAITHFULLY cling to their theory, while dismissing a well-tested alternative belief system.
That`s why they hate the Intelligent Design Theory so bitterly; it uses their own belief system-scientism-against them!
Atheism is most definitely a religious faith.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at November 26, 2007 11:18 AM (QbcjU)
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November 16, 2007
Get a Job or Myths of the Sixties
The myths from and about the ‘Sixties’ are alive and well, being reinforced by the Media, Sixties relics, provocateurs and wanna-bes infesting educational institutions and the political arena.
A couple of years ago I heard someone of the “Sixties†generation, say, “We were special.â€
As if everyone else isn’t.
The straightforward retort to that “We were special,†statement is “Boy, you’ve got gall.†But at the time, I was too stunned by the arrogant stupidity of it to say anything, and I was in a college setting which was not the best place to nuke such a vacuous comment.
We have to understand what that person is reveling in, well, a mythical time. Myth in the sense that the ‘Sixties’ generation has been taken credit for changes they had nothing to do with. The college revolutions, or rather the revolts by uneducated teenagers and early twenty-somethings occurred around 1969. And by then, first civil rights legislation was passed in 1964, by a bunch of Old White Men, I must add. The ‘Pill’ was available in 1960, and there’s more. All you have to do is read The Death of the Grown-Up by Diana West. She puts forth a collection of ideas and thoughts which will leave you nodding your head.
The adults of the Greatest Generation surrendered to the college adolescents, and went so far as to join them, becoming children themselves. One line from Diana West’s book about the destructive activities occurring on the 60’s campuses goes like this, “Authority and reason would give way to novelty and feelings†(60).
Sounds familiar and contemporary, doesn’t it? Think Global Warming. Reason has been abandoned for feelings. No matter how the facts debunking the hysteria pile up.
But we have to face the fact that to understand the ‘Sixties,’ people need to know and understand what was going on--and when it was going on. And I suspect that is occurring, little by little. It must be, because of the fact that the West book has been published.
The day will come when the ‘Sixties’ will be stripped bare. Then people will be stunned by what didn’t happen, because all there was was a bunch of college students who should’ve been kicked in the backside, and told to get back in the classroom or “Get a job.â€
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Hi William!
Welcome to Mee.nu!
Great post; it makes me think of the concept of ``special`` when used with those less intellectually gifted. I would call the `60`s the spoiled brat era, myself. It really was a bad, self-indulgent time.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at November 17, 2007 05:00 PM (q26a/)
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what is the different between special and genius? When US said about a solution to global warming, but themselves doesn't want to cut down their emissions, for me, it just as nonsense as
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November 15, 2007
A New Home
Sometimes you need a change . . . as long as the change doesn’t hurt anyone, of course.
So, here I am at mee.nu.
I was blogging at my old site for sometime, and the traffic fell off ever since I switched to the NEW Beta blog which was offered. I think I got ‘newed’ right out of whatever audience I had, but that is neither here nor there. We will see how things go now.
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